Where are the remains? Options

[windtalker]

I ran across this question,, again,, on a blog.
I know it's been asked to death and answered to death but I thought I'd reply to it and also posted my thoughts verbatim on another forum I post at.

What happens to the remains when they die?
Do they burst into flames?
Does a spaceship pick them up and carry them off?
Do their kin bury them or cannibalize them?
Why hasn't anyone found their remains?
Why aren't they roadkill?

I've actually seen those questions and been asked some of them.
I not unlike many others have wondered that very thing and gave it some thought and here is some of those thoughts put into print.

What happens to the remains when they die?

Uhmm. The same thing that happens to any other flesh and blood animal to include man?

Do they burst into flames?

Give me a break ok?

Does a spaceship pick them up and carry them off?

See above

Do their kin bury them or cannibalize them?

Actually this may not be far off the mark.
My reasoning is that while we resided in the Hope/Washington Arkansas area, we had a very nearly nightly occurrence and several sitings with outside witnesses from Texas.
A small video clip of one siting can be seen on youtube that was shot by one of the witnesses.
It's mostly black since it's at night but it does have audio of the critter if anyone is interested.
Anyway, during our own explorations of the area we came upon a place it would pass through.
We looked there several times and simply found sign something large had passed through.
We had gone back maybe two days after a previous look-see and found a horrendous stink.
It was a dog that was in advanced decomp.
No real way to tell what got it into that state and it was well hidden in brush.
We watched it and could tell it was being visited, but not consumed.
It was also maggot ridden and when it was down to bones, it came up missing
A week or so later, it was replaced.
Maggots are a very high source of protein.
Who's to say this particular animal wasn't intelligent enough to recognize this and used the decomposing body of a dog as a high protein food source?
Who's to say they won't use their own kin for the same purpose?
Who's to say they won't consume the bones for the calcium?

Why hasn't anyone found their remains?

See above and who is to say we haven't?
The places who do categorize bones do have drawers labeled unknown as well as drawers that are only opened for deposits as the drawer hasn't been gotten to yet.
How many of us have been in the woods, seen an occasional bone and really haven't a clue as to where it went in a body or what body contained it.
How many of us laymen are even qualified to make that call?
I think the skeptics and those asking the questions are being a bit unreasonable in their expectations.
That being the case, how many mountain lion remains are found in the wild?
Do they go up in flames when they die or does nature find a way to take care of the problem?
Then again, are mountain lions a myth also?

Why aren't they roadkill?

Who said they don't on occasion end up that way?
I've seen reports and claims where a driver has smacked one.
I've also personally met an individual who made that claim, was a previous non-believer and had the Toyota pick up with the caved in hood, grill and fender to back it up.
Sorry, no hair or really anything else to retrieve from anywhere.
It's a huge animal and unless it's struck straight on with a Mack, it's entirely possible it crawled off and possibly died other than alongside the road.
Deer as well as dogs do, why not a 6-7 foot tall 300 pound plus animal?

Anyone else have any thoughts?
Regards.

edited as an after thought:
Not to sound cruel or morbid, but has anyone ever tried to kill a cat that needed killing or was a complete nuisance with the garbage can?
They are an exceptionally hard animal to perish, so if a cat can be hard to perish, why not an animal several times it's size?

This post has been edited by windtalker: Nov 3 2009, 10:21 AM

[Nightwing]

I ran across this question,, again,, on a blog.
I know it's been asked to death and answered to death but I thought I'd reply to it and also posted my thoughts verbatim on another forum I post at.

What happens to the remains when they die?

I guess I always fall back on the "rarity x nature making use of everything that dies, very quickly" rule. I cannot recall where I saw it, but recently on some show or the other there was a multi-day video taken of a deer being "disposed of" by mother nature. Originally when the experiment was set up, I believe the woman doing it assumed it would take up to a month to be largely gone, if even that quick. To her surprise, it was almost totally gone(other then hair), in less then a week. Now, even if you DO give it a month for ma nature to take it's course...that's really not very long, and if they have reasonably long lives and a very small population..you may only have a handful die on the entire continent(adults at least) in any given year. Say...a dozen die a year..
If so..what are the real chances of finding one of only a dozen dead anything, particularly if many of them are in very remote areas and those that don't live in remote areas, have the opportunity to "crawl off and die some place" hidden...

[windtalker]

That's a good point Nightwing.
The dog carcass I spoke of didn't last all that long either.
It could be folks condition themselves to the road kill we see and don't really keep a tally of how long something lasts, unless it's been pancaked then it seems to hang around forever.
If it's a skunk it seems it takes years for it to disappear.
I also think the skeptics think wild animal and pop into deer,squirrel and rabbit mode and think the animal we seek numbers into the same numbers,,, and they don't.
Where there may be 20-30 deer or so in a 5 square mile area, there might be one 'squatch,,, if that.

[RedRatSnake]

Hi

NW ~ That was an earlier Monster Quest Episode, I remember it really shocked everyone that it only took about a week for the deer to be down to almost nothing and all covered by leaves.

Peace
Tim

[wiiawiwb]

The first chimpanzee fossilized remains weren't discovered until late 2004 in Kenya's Rift Valley. Chimps have existed in Africa for about 5-7 million years yet no one could find their fossilized remains.

According to Jane Goodall's website approximately 1 million chimps have lived at any one time in Africa (except for the past several decades). If a chimp has an average lifespan of 40 years then approximately 275 billion chimps have lived in Africa.

So, if just a handful of remains were just uncovered in 2004 where 275 billion have existed, why is it any concern that a BF remains hasn't been unearthed yet?

[windtalker]

What happens to the remains is a logical question for everyone, not just skeptics or possibly the science community.
Remains aren't the only questions they ask about or use in their defense of skepticism, but if a logical and reasonable answer can be given, especially if facts are introduced as has already been done here, the skeptic platform tends to shrink.
Never know, the science community may see the skeptic platform disappearing and more of them make the leap Dr. Meldrum has and possibly be able to offer up something we can use.