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Jul 21 2008, 11:54 PM
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![]() Known to frequently hear the comment, "Nice Rack" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,589 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Kentwood, Michigan, USA, Terra, Sol system Member No.: 3 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
So, this is what happens when I get bored, and decide to have a look at something.
Officer Whitton is apparently a real person. That's sort of too bad, as I bet his Department will have a rather dim view of him participating in an online scheme seemingly designed to convince people to pay them $500, and using the "bigfoot body" and the testimony of "Dr Paul Van Buren" to somehow validate it. First, exhibit A, a photo of Officer Whitton: ![]() He seems to be the man in the video, with the cast..so we'll run with that. Now it gets interesting. He claims to have gone to the airport to pick up Dr Van Buren, and we see a bit of Dr. Van Buren in several screen shots, such as here: ![]() Now...the interesting thing is that in Texas, there also lives a man named Martin Whitton. Now, Martin happens to be a photographer. I found Martin because on the comments section of the video linked by Tube, there are several claims that "Dr Van Buren" is instead the brother of one of the people featured in the video/on the website. Later..someone says "nice to see MARTIN in these"(or something to that effect). I took that as meaning that Martin is the name of the "Dr"...so I just started adding the claimed last names of all the players to "martin" and behold, the power of google. Since we had the cops name, and he appears to be a real person...I started with him, thus, Martin Witton, Texas, was my first google. Here is the link to a photo on his photography site, which is quite interesting. http://www.mwwphoto.com/gallery/3253166_i9...180078420_BpEjH Here is a screen shot, in case said page happens to disappear. ![]() You will note the people in the shot...then please note the title of the shot. It's "family, 2006" or something along those lines. Once might even interpret that to mean it's Martins family. That would be interesting, given that somehow...both Officer Matthew Whitton, AND "Dr Paul Van Buren" seem to have managed to find their way INTO that photo...a photo taken by, and on a site owned by, a man with the same last name as Officer Whitton(and one might note, in the same city that the presumably mythical Dr Van Buren also resides, per his myspace page). Here is a fade in of Officer Whitton onto "himself" in the photo. Please note that all facial features match perfectly...even down to the mole on his right cheek. ![]() Here is a comparison of the mystery man on the far left of Mr. Martin Whitton's photo..and "Dr. Van Buren". Notice any similarities there? ![]() I will leave the conclusions as to what all this means, up to the readers, as of course I can't claim to know for certain that any "funny business" is going on. After all..maybe the DO have a bigfoot body, maybe there really IS a "Dr Van Buren who looks just like Martin Whitton, and maybe Martin Whitton is entirely unrelated to Officer Whitton, and he just happens to have a relative who is a clone of Officer Whitton, and thus there is no false claims of any kind going on, by a Police officer, in an attempt to bolster a story being used to convince people to pay $500 for a weekend in the woods. Yeah..all that could be true. I wonder what the commander of the Uniformed personnel division in the Clayton County police department would make of all of this? -------------------- We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes. I realized then, and have known ever since, that there was something new to me in those eyes--something known only to her and to the mountain. I was young then, and full of trigger-itch; I thought that because fewer wolves meant more deer, that no wolves would mean hunters' paradise. But after seeing the green fire die, I sensed that neither the wolf nor the mountain agreed with such a view.
Aldo Leopold--Thinking Like A Mountain Report a sighting here: ![]() ![]() |
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Jul 22 2008, 12:56 AM
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![]() Lead Groupie pisser offer. ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 177 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Seattle Member No.: 295 Bigfoot Encounter: No |
Outstanding work Nightwing!!
It's been several years now, and I'd have to double check the specifics for sure, but I think this is similar to what happened in the Reed UFO hoax. A man claiming to be "Dr. Reed" called in to the Art Bell show and detailed his wild UFO story. Obviously at this point it was only a radio thing. Eventually photos of "Dr. Reed" surfaced, and he was recognized as a guy really named Rutter. Yeah, most YouTube comments are useless garbage, but from time to time you see interesting stuff. I suspect Nightwing's findings will be seen in YouTube comments shortly, unless they get turned off. Remember when the news broke that Penn and Teller created the "Sonoma" video? The BFRO's webpage promoting it as real was taken down within the hour... We might see Bigfoot Tracker's YouTube videos gone in a few hours as well. |
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Jul 22 2008, 01:44 AM
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![]() Lead Groupie pisser offer. ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 177 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Seattle Member No.: 295 Bigfoot Encounter: No |
I wonder how this will affect Martin Whitton's wedding photography business?
http://www.mwwphoto.com/gallery/4854194_sPwYq |
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Jul 22 2008, 02:30 AM
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![]() Known to frequently hear the comment, "Nice Rack" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,589 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Kentwood, Michigan, USA, Terra, Sol system Member No.: 3 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Thanks Tube. That being said..I'm less then 100 percent sure on the fade in guy now..he does look older, although again, the facial features(and the mole!) seem to align. It may be due to a different stance or something, OR he may just be a close looking relative.
All that aside..the Identity of "Dr Paul Van Buren, seems to be in serious doubt and if indeed as we suspect, he is this Martin guy..then I think the rest of it is irrelevant. Outstanding work Nightwing!! It's been several years now, and I'd have to double check the specifics for sure, but I think this is similar to what happened in the Reed UFO hoax. A man claiming to be "Dr. Reed" called in to the Art Bell show and detailed his wild UFO story. Obviously at this point it was only a radio thing. Eventually photos of "Dr. Reed" surfaced, and he was recognized as a guy really named Rutter. Yeah, most YouTube comments are useless garbage, but from time to time you see interesting stuff. I suspect Nightwing's findings will be seen in YouTube comments shortly, unless they get turned off. Remember when the news broke that Penn and Teller created the "Sonoma" video? The BFRO's webpage promoting it as real was taken down within the hour... We might see Bigfoot Tracker's YouTube videos gone in a few hours as well. -------------------- We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes. I realized then, and have known ever since, that there was something new to me in those eyes--something known only to her and to the mountain. I was young then, and full of trigger-itch; I thought that because fewer wolves meant more deer, that no wolves would mean hunters' paradise. But after seeing the green fire die, I sensed that neither the wolf nor the mountain agreed with such a view.
Aldo Leopold--Thinking Like A Mountain Report a sighting here: ![]() ![]() |
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Jul 22 2008, 05:05 AM
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![]() Southern Fried Sweetness ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 434 Joined: 5-June 05 Member No.: 126 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Nightwing, excellent work!
-------------------- Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, the devil shudders & says...
"Oh no....she's awake!!" If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around. |
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Jul 22 2008, 05:28 AM
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![]() Krantz ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 146 Joined: 25-July 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 327 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
I wonder how this will affect Martin Whitton's wedding photography business? http://www.mwwphoto.com/gallery/4854194_sPwYq Well, he may be in this hoax to bolster his business. His website says that the he is scheduled to do over 20 weddings in 2008. Which could mean that he has 21 weddings scheduled. As a retired professional photographer, I would hope that his portrait photography business is doing better, cause you can't live on 21 weddings a year. Over on the GCBRO message board, we have an individual claiming that they are stomping around his research area in West Texas. Hmmm? -------------------- "Well, hell yeah, son...of course they're watching you. They don't have TV's.....you're the entertainment!" Monster Hunter
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Jul 22 2008, 10:47 AM
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![]() Canine Truth-Detector ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 376 Joined: 28-May 05 Member No.: 18 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Night, you are right about Officer Whitton matching, great job! His features won't totally match up on a 2D plane because his head is held at 2 different angles, but copy and paste the mustache and grown hair to the Officer's photo, and it's a match.
This post has been edited by wolftrax: Jul 22 2008, 10:58 AM
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Jul 22 2008, 11:47 AM
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![]() aka Dr. Onion - Resident Weirdo ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 486 Joined: 22-August 07 Member No.: 1,846 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain |
Nightwing you are correct about Dr. Paul Van Buren being Martin Whitton. A new video has been put up on youtube that flat out states the good Dr. is indeed Martin Whitton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi0njBionu8 -------------------- Dang, my feet are C-O-L-D!!!!
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Jul 22 2008, 12:14 PM
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![]() aka Dr. Onion - Resident Weirdo ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 486 Joined: 22-August 07 Member No.: 1,846 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain |
The latest from Matt Whitton.
Admitting the hoaxing of Paul Van Buren. But they still claim they actually have a body and will be writing a book. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9SUvRQHoJg" This post has been edited by Dr. Onion: Jul 22 2008, 12:16 PM -------------------- Dang, my feet are C-O-L-D!!!!
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Jul 22 2008, 04:43 PM
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Byrne Group: Member Posts: 2 Joined: 22-July 08 Member No.: 11,583 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain |
Nightwing:
Excellent work! I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out how you superimposed one photo on top of another on your screenshots of the mwwphoto website - but I'm no tech guru! But you say you've got lots of time on your hands, so I'm sure you’ve been working at this sort of thing for some time. May I suggest something more productive during all of your free time, like volunteer work?! It can be really fun and rewarding, plus it’ll get you out of the house and away from the computer. Speaking of fun, I know you're just trying to get your chuckles too, but did you know that you violated U.S. Copyright law by posting copyrighted photos from a professional photographer's website (mwwphoto.com) onto the Bigfoot Discussions website? Please remove your posting (or at least all the copyrighted photographs - I certainly don't want to restrict your free speech!) from this posting and any other location you may have posted copyrighted photographs. If you have additional questions regarding copyright law, and I’m sure that I’m preaching to the choir here, don’t hesitate to utilize Google.com as a research tool. I found this interesting FAQ page on Federal Copyright Laws using your favorite website. Here’s one of the little nuggets I discovered: “The Copyright Act is federal law, not state law. Consequently, the law is uniform throughout the United States. Also, since the United States has signed several international copyright agreements, copyright protection is effective essentially all over the world. Generally, owners of copyright have the exclusive right to use and copy their works. Copyright owners can also authorize others to use their works. The use or copying of any work [including photographs] without permission from the owner of the copyright is a violation of the United States Copyright Act.” - http://www.photolaw.net/faq.html I greatly appreciate your cooperation. Best of luck in debunking other harmless hoaxes in the future! -MWhitton |
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Jul 22 2008, 04:47 PM
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![]() Mrs. Dingus McFlowers... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4,531 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 2 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Oh, I can't wait to play with YOU later on...
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. . . “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.” -- Dr. Suess, courtesy of Sasmbon "If they don’t want to be ridiculed by the media, then they should try a little harder not to make it so easy."--Vanity Fair article covering the 2008 Texas Conference MICHIGAN ENCOUNTER? See www.michiganbigfootreports.moonfruit.com. |
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Jul 22 2008, 04:58 PM
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![]() aka Dr. Onion - Resident Weirdo ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 486 Joined: 22-August 07 Member No.: 1,846 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain |
OMG! Is that Officer Whitton or his brother Martin?
This post has been edited by Dr. Onion: Jul 22 2008, 04:59 PM -------------------- Dang, my feet are C-O-L-D!!!!
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Jul 22 2008, 05:01 PM
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![]() The Jim™ - no additional comments necessary ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,148 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 1 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Nightwing: So basically you're an admitted liar and fraud? May I suggest something more productive than hoaxing reports and making fake videos.Excellent work! I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out how you superimposed one photo on top of another on your screenshots of the mwwphoto website - but I'm no tech guru! But you say you've got lots of time on your hands, so I'm sure you’ve been working at this sort of thing for some time. May I suggest something more productive during all of your free time, like volunteer work?! It can be really fun and rewarding, plus it’ll get you out of the house and away from the computer. QUOTE Speaking of fun, I know you're just trying to get your chuckles too, but did you know that you violated U.S. Copyright law by posting copyrighted photos from a professional photographer's website (mwwphoto.com) onto the Bigfoot Discussions website? Please remove your posting (or at least all the copyrighted photographs - I certainly don't want to restrict your free speech!) from this posting and any other location you may have posted copyrighted photographs. Why yes this is fun. For one thing fair use also includes the provision that Nightwing isn't making any profits or proceeds from the photo's and it is used in the context of an educational standpoint ( in this point how liars and frauds can be exposed) if you'd care to file suit, since I'm the one paying the bills for the forum again , go right ahead. I'll wait for the summons and I'll bet my lawyer can beat up your lawyer. ( Whom, like your Bigfoot also probably doesn't exist)If you have additional questions regarding copyright law, and I’m sure that I’m preaching to the choir here, don’t hesitate to utilize Google.com as a research tool. I found this interesting FAQ page on Federal Copyright Laws using your favorite website. Here’s one of the little nuggets I discovered: “The Copyright Act is federal law, not state law. Consequently, the law is uniform throughout the United States. Also, since the United States has signed several international copyright agreements, copyright protection is effective essentially all over the world. Generally, owners of copyright have the exclusive right to use and copy their works. Copyright owners can also authorize others to use their works. The use or copying of any work [including photographs] without permission from the owner of the copyright is a violation of the United States Copyright Act.” - http://www.photolaw.net/faq.html I greatly appreciate your cooperation. Best of luck in debunking other harmless hoaxes in the future! -MWhitton Oh one other thing, while were on the use of copyright infringement, you're using the Knight-rider theme song. And you are using on a page where you are attempting to profit from it. oops maybe you'd better read that entire copyright page before you go any further. Pathetic. -------------------- |
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Jul 22 2008, 05:10 PM
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![]() The Original Wood Devil ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 941 Joined: 28-May 05 From: God's Country Member No.: 27 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Best of luck in debunking other harmless hoaxes in the future! I would wish you luck but from what I hear dumbass is permanent. -------------------- |
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Jul 22 2008, 05:15 PM
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![]() The Jim™ - no additional comments necessary ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,148 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 1 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Just for your further reading pleasure ( if you get pleasure from reading long documents) :
QUOTE In its most general sense, a fair use is any copying of copyrighted material done for a limited and "transformative" purpose such as to comment upon, criticize or parody a copyrighted work. Such uses can be done without permission from the copyright owner. Another way of putting this is that fair use is a defense against infringement. If your use qualifies under the definition above, and as defined more specifically in this section, then your use would not be considered an illegal infringement. So what is a "transformative" use? If this definition seems ambiguous or vague, be aware that millions of dollars in legal fees have been spent attempting to define what qualifies as a fair use. There are no hard-and-fast rules, only general rules and varying court decisions. That's because the judges and lawmakers who created the fair use exception did not want to limit the definition of fair use. They wanted it--like free speech--to have an expansive meaning that could be open to interpretation. Most fair use analysis falls into two categories: commentary and criticism; or parody. http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_...view/index.html -------------------- |
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Jul 22 2008, 05:40 PM
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Byrne Group: Member Posts: 2 Joined: 22-July 08 Member No.: 11,583 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain |
Administrators/Posters:
I still stand by my statement regarding copyrighting. "Nightwing's" (an apparent administrator of this website?) unauthorized use of copyrighted photos is a violation of Federal Copyright Law - plain and simple; Obviously I'm not an attorney and I don't have unlimited amounts of capital to fight each person (like the administrators of this website); I've simply requested that you the administrator, another administrator or the poster remove unauthorized copyrighted material. If you don't honor my request, then so be it. I'm not going to make threats and I don’t have time to spar with everyone here who is spoiling for a fight at anything. Is all this really that entertaining? I don't really care too much for blogging and I'm moving on...I don't really want to be chained to the computer the rest of my life when there are so many other productive things to do. -MW |
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Jul 22 2008, 05:54 PM
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![]() Lead Groupie pisser offer. ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 177 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Seattle Member No.: 295 Bigfoot Encounter: No |
Just what the world needs; more lying cops.
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Jul 22 2008, 06:11 PM
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![]() CEO of Nude Fishing Tournament, "Asses for Basses" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1,406 Joined: 27-May 05 From: The Nearest Far Away Place Member No.: 4 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain |
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Jul 22 2008, 07:11 PM
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![]() Highly Exalted ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 420 Joined: 7-September 05 From: Coweta Co, GA Member No.: 215 Bigfoot Encounter: No |
This post has been edited by Thigmo: Jul 22 2008, 07:14 PM -------------------- Predictably, a discussion board flame war ensued, with affected parties chiming in with a wide and entertaining range of intelligence and hysteria levels — your typical discussion board fare. — Helen A.S. Popkin writing on msnbc.com, commenting on the fallout of Amazon's sudden unannounced deletion of 1984 from user's Kindle book readers.
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Jul 22 2008, 07:34 PM
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![]() Closet Mountain Man - needs therapy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1,187 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Kosciusko County, Indiana Member No.: 5 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Speaking of fun, I know you're just trying to get your chuckles too, but did you know that you violated U.S. Copyright law by posting copyrighted photos from a professional photographer's website (mwwphoto.com) onto the Bigfoot Discussions website? Do you think it's quite possible you committed a felony/fraud by advertising to deliver a product/service for a specific monitary amount ($499) with no possible ability to deliver on it? Administrators/Posters: Is all this really that entertaining? I don't really care too much for blogging and I'm moving on...I don't really want to be chained to the computer the rest of my life when there are so many other productive things to do. -MW And yet you had all that time to make and post various videos on YouTube? Was it really that entertaining? -------------------- "In case I wasn't really, REALLY clear about it... the WITNESS comes before your perceived right to know. Was that simple enough?"
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