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Stacy Flowers
post May 1 2006, 09:00 PM
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I wrote this up on the Ohio Conference thread, but figured since it'd probably be missed by a lot of people not interested in hearing about the conference, I'd copy it here as well. I think it's intriguing, important, and worthy of further discussion.

Larry Lund was the first speaker of the evening, and had this to say about the Memorial Day footage:

As it turns out, he was the first person called to review the video. Larry stated that when Owen Pate called him, the first words out of his mouth were "Larry, I understand you're the guy who can help me get this video on TV. How soon can you make that happen and how much money do you think I can get out of it?"

His initial impression upon viewing the video was that it was hoaxed. He did say that seeing it again on "Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science" almost had him convinced that maybe the thing was real, except for one little thing: On the original tape, Owen Pate had forgotten to stop recording in between the two "sightings" of the creature in question.

He had a copy of the original tape with him, unedited with all of the dialogue going back and forth and boy, is this revealing. The quotes below are written verbatim as we heard them on the video. The camera is on the spot where the subject runs out from for a looonnnng time before it does, while the dialogue below is going on... apparently they know what's going to happen ahead of time. This is the stuff you did not see or hear on LMS:

- "We can make a million bucks!"
- "[undecipherable] enough power to play it back on TV?"
- "I've had two too many drinks!" (laughter)

At this point the subject starts running on the left of the screen, this is what you see without the talking, and the dialogue continues as it runs:

- "Looks like a white boy to me" (Larry said this was positively Fred Bradshaw's voice and one of his key phrases--the "white boy" thing--Fred had previously denied any involvement with this)
- "That's a guy with a big pack on his back"
- "It's a bigfoot!" (laughter)

This is all supposedly after seeing the thing once already... this dialogue occurs immediately before what you see on LMS. Does that sound like a bunch of people who have just seen a bigfoot, or a bunch of people partying and having a great laugh? icon_eyebrow.gif

Larry also believes that the movement at the end of the clip which some people believe is a baby being lifted up onto the shoulders is actually the head of the costume being removed. He said that the original actor playing Harry Henderson, before they got Kevin Peter Hall, actually DIED in the costume, on set, from heat exhaustion. He believes the guy had to take the head off to get some air and breathe after running across the hillside.

The video he showed was enhanced and SO much clearer than what you see on LMS, and honestly it did look (to me) like a man dressed in black running with a backpack on his back. After seeing the entire clip and hearing the banter between the "witnesses," I personally no longer give this video any credence at all.


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post May 1 2006, 09:14 PM
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I'd hope that anyone who saw that presentation wouldn't give it any ..


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post May 1 2006, 09:27 PM
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Yep..Mr Lund did a very good job of nailing that coffin shut.


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post May 1 2006, 09:44 PM
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Ya know I would'nt mind getting in a discussion why I think the subject of the video is a person in a costume but I feel most of the regulars here already think it is....and the ones on the BFF that think it's legit are so entrenched in their believe in this video only God could convince them it's not......

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post May 1 2006, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(Twisted @ May 1 2006, 10:44 PM) *
Ya know I would like to get in a discussion why I think the subject of the video is a person in a costume but I feel most of the regulars here already think it is....and the ones on the BFF that think it's legit are so entrenched in their believe in this video only God could convince them it's not......oops I said God...sorry


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post May 1 2006, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(Mike I. @ May 1 2006, 10:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Twisted @ May 1 2006, 10:44 PM) *

Ya know I would like to get in a discussion why I think the subject of the video is a person in a costume but I feel most of the regulars here already think it is....and the ones on the BFF that think it's legit are so entrenched in their believe in this video only God could convince them it's not......oops I said God...sorry


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post May 1 2006, 11:30 PM
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Just remember...

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The footage has always looked like a dude running in a monkey suit. Even after LMS and their explanations, I was always just sitting there thinking, "Why are they trying so hard to sell this one?"

I have little faith in the Freeman footage, but it is a hell of a lot more interesting than the Memorial Day footage. They should have put some effort into debunking that one. Wait, that's not what they were trying to do. They weren't trying to prove the films were fake, they were trying to convince us they were real.


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post May 1 2006, 11:40 PM
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I find the whole thing very interesting....... icon_eyebrow.gif


Why did none of this information come forward when they were making LMS?


After hearing this, I wouldn't give the video any credence anymore either, not even if they all broke out and sang "Oh, Suzie-Q"...... icon_lol.gif


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post May 2 2006, 05:36 AM
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QUOTE(Twisted @ May 1 2006, 10:44 PM) *
Ya know I would'nt mind getting in a discussion why I think the subject of the video is a person in a costume but I feel most of the regulars here already think it is....and the ones on the BFF that think it's legit are so entrenched in their believe in this video only God could convince them it's not......

I was actually about 50/50 between "hoax" and "possible", but not after this weekend. And I'm not saying that it absolutely is a hoax with no question about it, just that we saw and heard enough to convince me that it is.


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post May 2 2006, 08:49 AM
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I find the Freeman footage more of an interesting film.


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post May 2 2006, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(mike2k1 @ May 2 2006, 09:49 AM) *
I find the Freeman footage more of an interesting film.



Me too.


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