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May 1 2006, 09:00 PM
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![]() Mrs. Dingus McFlowers... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4,563 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 2 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
I wrote this up on the Ohio Conference thread, but figured since it'd probably be missed by a lot of people not interested in hearing about the conference, I'd copy it here as well. I think it's intriguing, important, and worthy of further discussion.
Larry Lund was the first speaker of the evening, and had this to say about the Memorial Day footage: As it turns out, he was the first person called to review the video. Larry stated that when Owen Pate called him, the first words out of his mouth were "Larry, I understand you're the guy who can help me get this video on TV. How soon can you make that happen and how much money do you think I can get out of it?" His initial impression upon viewing the video was that it was hoaxed. He did say that seeing it again on "Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science" almost had him convinced that maybe the thing was real, except for one little thing: On the original tape, Owen Pate had forgotten to stop recording in between the two "sightings" of the creature in question. He had a copy of the original tape with him, unedited with all of the dialogue going back and forth and boy, is this revealing. The quotes below are written verbatim as we heard them on the video. The camera is on the spot where the subject runs out from for a looonnnng time before it does, while the dialogue below is going on... apparently they know what's going to happen ahead of time. This is the stuff you did not see or hear on LMS: - "We can make a million bucks!" - "[undecipherable] enough power to play it back on TV?" - "I've had two too many drinks!" (laughter) At this point the subject starts running on the left of the screen, this is what you see without the talking, and the dialogue continues as it runs: - "Looks like a white boy to me" (Larry said this was positively Fred Bradshaw's voice and one of his key phrases--the "white boy" thing--Fred had previously denied any involvement with this) - "That's a guy with a big pack on his back" - "It's a bigfoot!" (laughter) This is all supposedly after seeing the thing once already... this dialogue occurs immediately before what you see on LMS. Does that sound like a bunch of people who have just seen a bigfoot, or a bunch of people partying and having a great laugh? Larry also believes that the movement at the end of the clip which some people believe is a baby being lifted up onto the shoulders is actually the head of the costume being removed. He said that the original actor playing Harry Henderson, before they got Kevin Peter Hall, actually DIED in the costume, on set, from heat exhaustion. He believes the guy had to take the head off to get some air and breathe after running across the hillside. The video he showed was enhanced and SO much clearer than what you see on LMS, and honestly it did look (to me) like a man dressed in black running with a backpack on his back. After seeing the entire clip and hearing the banter between the "witnesses," I personally no longer give this video any credence at all. -------------------- .
. . . “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.” -- Dr. Suess, courtesy of Sasmbon "If they don’t want to be ridiculed by the media, then they should try a little harder not to make it so easy."--Vanity Fair article covering the 2008 Texas Conference MICHIGAN ENCOUNTER? See www.michiganbigfootreports.moonfruit.com. |
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May 1 2006, 09:14 PM
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![]() The Jim™ - no additional comments necessary ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,151 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 1 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
I'd hope that anyone who saw that presentation wouldn't give it any ..
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May 1 2006, 09:27 PM
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![]() Known to frequently hear the comment, "Nice Rack" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,617 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Kentwood, Michigan, USA, Terra, Sol system Member No.: 3 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Yep..Mr Lund did a very good job of nailing that coffin shut.
-------------------- We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes. I realized then, and have known ever since, that there was something new to me in those eyes--something known only to her and to the mountain. I was young then, and full of trigger-itch; I thought that because fewer wolves meant more deer, that no wolves would mean hunters' paradise. But after seeing the green fire die, I sensed that neither the wolf nor the mountain agreed with such a view.
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May 1 2006, 09:44 PM
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![]() Banned ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1,981 Joined: 4-January 06 From: Hell Member No.: 252 Bigfoot Encounter: No |
Ya know I would'nt mind getting in a discussion why I think the subject of the video is a person in a costume but I feel most of the regulars here already think it is....and the ones on the BFF that think it's legit are so entrenched in their believe in this video only God could convince them it's not......
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May 1 2006, 09:52 PM
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Ya know I would like to get in a discussion why I think the subject of the video is a person in a costume but I feel most of the regulars here already think it is....and the ones on the BFF that think it's legit are so entrenched in their believe in this video only God could convince them it's not......oops I said God...sorry CUE A VERY LOUD THUNDERCLAP SPEAK FORTH TWISTED, SHARE US WITH YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS! |
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May 1 2006, 10:09 PM
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![]() Banned ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1,981 Joined: 4-January 06 From: Hell Member No.: 252 Bigfoot Encounter: No |
Ya know I would like to get in a discussion why I think the subject of the video is a person in a costume but I feel most of the regulars here already think it is....and the ones on the BFF that think it's legit are so entrenched in their believe in this video only God could convince them it's not......oops I said God...sorry CUE A VERY LOUD THUNDERCLAP SPEAK FORTH TWISTED, SHARE US WITH YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS! You busting my chops?...or kiddin me? This post has been edited by Twisted: May 1 2006, 10:27 PM |
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May 1 2006, 11:30 PM
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Chief Jimite™ - Former Texas Ranger ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,160 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Craig, CO Member No.: 7 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain |
Just remember...
In here, I am God!!! Mwuhahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! The footage has always looked like a dude running in a monkey suit. Even after LMS and their explanations, I was always just sitting there thinking, "Why are they trying so hard to sell this one?" I have little faith in the Freeman footage, but it is a hell of a lot more interesting than the Memorial Day footage. They should have put some effort into debunking that one. Wait, that's not what they were trying to do. They weren't trying to prove the films were fake, they were trying to convince us they were real. -------------------- Put all thine faith in The Jim™, and thou shalt be be blessed with the creamy goodness of his righteous manliness.
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May 1 2006, 11:40 PM
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![]() Code name: Fartblossom AKA: Skippy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,651 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Washington Member No.: 12 Bigfoot Encounter: No |
I find the whole thing very interesting.......
Why did none of this information come forward when they were making LMS? After hearing this, I wouldn't give the video any credence anymore either, not even if they all broke out and sang "Oh, Suzie-Q"...... -------------------- A Jimite Worldwide Media Production
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May 2 2006, 05:36 AM
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![]() Mrs. Dingus McFlowers... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 4,563 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 2 Bigfoot Encounter: Yes |
Ya know I would'nt mind getting in a discussion why I think the subject of the video is a person in a costume but I feel most of the regulars here already think it is....and the ones on the BFF that think it's legit are so entrenched in their believe in this video only God could convince them it's not...... I was actually about 50/50 between "hoax" and "possible", but not after this weekend. And I'm not saying that it absolutely is a hoax with no question about it, just that we saw and heard enough to convince me that it is. -------------------- .
. . . “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.” -- Dr. Suess, courtesy of Sasmbon "If they don’t want to be ridiculed by the media, then they should try a little harder not to make it so easy."--Vanity Fair article covering the 2008 Texas Conference MICHIGAN ENCOUNTER? See www.michiganbigfootreports.moonfruit.com. |
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May 2 2006, 08:49 AM
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![]() the Paul Alternative ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 535 Joined: 28-May 05 From: Just left of the Ocmulgee, GA Member No.: 20 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain |
I find the Freeman footage more of an interesting film.
-------------------- Bitter Monk for President in 08.
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May 2 2006, 08:54 AM
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![]() CEO of Nude Fishing Tournament, "Asses for Basses" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1,406 Joined: 27-May 05 From: The Nearest Far Away Place Member No.: 4 Bigfoot Encounter: Uncertain |
I find the Freeman footage more of an interesting film. Me too. -------------------- Suave and urbane sexual athlete
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